This is what is going on in the Climate”gate” World at the moment.

The Following links are postings from Wattsupwiththat.com. This website is one of the many Climate website that I visit, to include Pro AGW websites such as Realclimate.com. I try to get an understanding from both points of view. However can I trust the points of view similar to the ones held by Gavin Schmidt at Realclimate, with the current scandals being uncovered by the hacked E-mails? Also, what is in store for the scientific organizations involved with or tainted by this recently uncovered scandal? Find out more at wattsupwiththat.com and Foxnews.com. 

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/28/climategate-surpasses-global-warming-on-google-autosuggest-still-blocked/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/28/mann-to-investigated-by-penn-state-university-review/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/28/telegraphs-booker-on-the-climategate-scandal/

God Bless

Brandon Sheffield

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2 Responses to “This is what is going on in the Climate”gate” World at the moment.”

  1. hkyson Says:

    “Climategate” started out when there appeared on the Internet a collection of e-mails of a group of climatologists who work in the University of East Anglia in England. These documents reveal that some climatologists of international preeminence have manipulated the data of their investigations and have strongly tried to discredit climatologists who are not convinced that the increasing quantities of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere are the cause of global warming.

    It is true that a majority of the scientists who study climatic tendencies in our atmosphere have arrived at the conclusion that the world’s climate is changing, and they have convinced a group of politicians, some of whom are politically powerful, of the truth of their conclusions.

    A minority, however, is skeptical. Some believe that recent data that suggest that the average temperature of the atmosphere is going up can be explained by natural variations in solar radiation and that global warming is a temporary phenomenon. Others believe that the historical evidence indicating that the temperature of the atmosphere is going up at a dangerous rate is simply not reliable.

    Such lacks of agreement are common in the sciences. They are reduced and eventually eliminated with the accumulation of new evidence and of more refined theories or even by completely new ones. Such debates can persist for a period of decades. Academics often throw invective at one another in these debates. But typically this does not mean much.

    But the case of climate change is different. If the evidence indicates that global warming is progressive, is caused principally by our industrial processes, and will probably cause disastrous changes in our atmosphere before the end of the twenty-first century, then we do not have the time to verify precisely if this evidence is reliable. Such a process would be a question of many years of new investigations. And if the alarmist climatologists are right, such a delay would be tragic for all humanity.

    The difficulty is that economic and climatologic systems are very complicated. They are not like celestial mechanics, which involves only the interaction of gravity and centrifugal force, and efforts to construct computerized models to describe these complicated systems simply cannot include all the factors that are influential in the evolution of these complicated systems.

    All this does not necessarily indicate that the alarmist climatologists are not right. But it really means that if global warming is occurring, we cannot know exactly what will be the average temperature of our atmosphere in the year 2100 and what will be the average sea level of the world’s ocean in that year.

    It also means that we cannot be confident that efforts by the industrialized countries to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere will have a significant influence on the evolution of the world’s climate.

    Alas, the reduction of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere would be very costly and would greatly change the lives of all the inhabitants of our planet–with the possibility (perhaps even the probability!) that all these efforts will be completely useless.

    Harleigh Kyson Jr.

    • smallz79 Says:

      Great comment. I agree with you that the climatic processes are very complex and their is very little known about what drives our always changing environment. I do know it is not a good thing for man to be stripping the Earth of it’s forests and all of the other things we get from it, without some how replacing it or ensuring we leave as small of a footprint that we can. The only thing I do know is that the Earth is bigger than what we give it credit for. I think if the scientists would concentrate more on trying to understand what makes the Earth tick as a whole, rather than trying to figure out what is wrong with the Earth, we would be much further along with climatic science research. Once the Scientists are 100% sure of how the Earth works or behaves then concentrate on figuring out if the Earth is not acting as it should and what is causing it. Scientists are human they too are apt to point the finger at something or somebody just as the government is very quick to do (Iraq??).

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